{"id":16,"date":"2006-06-18T12:46:03","date_gmt":"2006-06-18T12:46:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ivyrun.com\/wordpress\/?p=16"},"modified":"2006-06-18T12:46:03","modified_gmt":"2006-06-18T12:46:03","slug":"greek-art-laocoon-and-his-sons","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ivyrun.com\/inanotherplace\/?p=16","title":{"rendered":"Greek Art: Laocoon and his sons"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.artchive.com\/artchive\/G\/greek\/laocoon.jpg.html\">Greek Art: Laocoon and his sons<\/a><\/p>\n<p>In his introduction to <i>The Introduction to Visual Culture,<\/i> Nicholas Mirzoeff discusses this statue as an example of a typical sublime work of art.&nbsp; It immortalizes the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.loggia.com\/myth\/laocoon.html\" target=\"_blank\">story<\/a> of the Trojan warrior and his children fighting with a serpent that will ultimately kill them.&nbsp; Mirzoeff defines the sublime as &quot;the pleasurable experience in representation of that which would be painful or terrifying in reality, leading to a realization of the limits of the human and of the powers of nature&quot; (p. 16).&nbsp; According to Mirzoeff, Kant distinguished between the sublime and the beautiful with the former being &quot;a more complex and profound emotion&#8230;a preference for the ethical over the aesthetic&quot; (p. 16).&nbsp; It is this preference that has led Lyotard to see sublime as a key term for postmodernism: &quot;The task of the sublime is to present the unpresentable, an appropriate role for the relentless visualizing of the postmodern era&quot; (p. 16).&nbsp; He goes on to say,<\/p>\n<p>&quot;Unlike the beautiful, which can be experienced in nature or culture, the sublime is the create of culture and is therefore central to visual culture.&nbsp; Of course, the representation of natural subjects can be sublime, as in the classic example of a shipwreck or storm at sea.&nbsp; However, the direct experience of a shipwreck cannot be sublime because one would presumably expreience only pain and the (sublime) dimension of pleasure would be missing&quot; (p. 16).&nbsp; But what about someone watching?&nbsp; Certainly, those who jumped to their deaths on 9\/11 where experiencing only horrible pain and suffering, but did we who watch also experience pleasure?&nbsp; I remember those tapes being played over and over, and I finally had to stop watching because the raw, live pain was too much to bear.&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Greek Art: Laocoon and his sons In his introduction to The Introduction to Visual Culture, Nicholas Mirzoeff discusses this statue as an example of a typical sublime work of art.&nbsp; It immortalizes the story of the Trojan warrior and his children fighting with a serpent that will ultimately kill them.&nbsp; Mirzoeff defines the sublime as &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ivyrun.com\/inanotherplace\/?p=16\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Greek Art: Laocoon and his sons<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-16","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-sublime"],"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4X3L0-g","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ivyrun.com\/inanotherplace\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ivyrun.com\/inanotherplace\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ivyrun.com\/inanotherplace\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ivyrun.com\/inanotherplace\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ivyrun.com\/inanotherplace\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=16"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.ivyrun.com\/inanotherplace\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ivyrun.com\/inanotherplace\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=16"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ivyrun.com\/inanotherplace\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=16"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ivyrun.com\/inanotherplace\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=16"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}